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capnstubby 
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I am working on an install with an Audiovox/Prestige XRO9100 on a 2006 RAM Diesel. I have the CHDL7-PK2 bypass kit installed and I am a bit over my head with what I have read on this forum and what is included with the tech sheet. I cannot figure out if I need the relays or not. I was following this thread https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~84855~PN~0~TPN~1 and it seemed to indicate that I would not need any additional relays.

Is anyone familiar with my setup that can offer a little guidance?

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No relays needed but resistors will be needed. Most remote starters have a good enough ground output that this will trigger the (-) resistance through ground that is needed by the Dodge to engage the parking lights and the door locks.
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capnstubby 
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Thanks for the reply. The tech note I have seems to indicate that you are correct but it keeps reffering to a diagram and of course I do not have it. Would you have access to this?

Dodge 2006 Ram Pickup 2DR Pickup

(Remote Start / Security / GPS)

Remote start / security / GPS

Wire/Function  Colour  Location/Description  Polarity

PASSIVE ANTI-THEFT  YES  TRANSPONDER  SEE NOTES

12 VOLTS  Blue/red  Ignition switch harness  +

This wire should not be used for remote start or alarm installations. It is recommended that you run power to the fusebox or to the vehicle's battery or heavy gauge Orange in driver's kickpanel.

IGNITION  Pink/white  Ignition switch harness  +

ACCESSORY  Violet/brown  Ignition switch harness  -

This wire uses ground with resistors to activate Accessory (560-ohm) and Second Start (150-ohm). See the provided diagram for wiring instructions.

STARTER  GREEN/ YELLOW  Ignition switch harness  +

STARTER 2  Violet/brown  Ignition switch harness  -

This wire uses ground with resistors to activate Accessory (560-ohm) and Second Start (150-ohm). See the provided diagram for wiring instructions.

KEY SENSE  Violet/brown  Ignition switch harness

Violet/brown goes to pin C4-13 of instrument cluster unit; WHITE/ orange return wire is found at pin C3-11

TACH SIGNAL  Dk.Blue/gray  At PCM on pass. Side firewall under hood  AC

DIESEL TACH SIGNAL  Dk.blue/gray  At ECM on driver's side motor in first plug  AC

Can also find a BROWN / YELLOW on a BLACK/ blue plug at the top of the engine.

FUEL INJECTOR  Opposite of Tan/whit  At any injector on engine  AC

LOCK  Violet/green  In driver's kickpanel  -

Lock is (-) through 800-ohm resistor. Unlock is (-) though 330-ohm resistor.

UNLOCK  Violet/green  In driver's kickpanel  -

Lock is (-) through 800-ohm resistor. Unlock is (-) though 330-ohm resistor.

DOORPIN  SEE NOTES

Door triggers are independent and can be found behind the instrument cluster. Violet (Driver's door), Violet/white (pass.door), Violet/gray (left rear door) and Violet / YELLOW (right rear door). All 4 wires are (-) and should be diode isolated.

FACTORY ARM  OEM REMOTE ONLY

FACTORY DISARM  OEM REMOTE ONLY

The alarm will disarm automatically for remote start with proper IMMOBILIZER bypass.

BRAKESWITCH  WHITE/ tan  At switch above brake pedal  +

PARKLIGHTS  WHITE/ green  At light harness switch  -

Use a 1100-ohm resistor inline to activate parking lights.

HAND BRAKE  GREEN / WHITE  At switch on handbrake lever  -

HORN  GREEN/ violet  At steering column  -

DRIVER WINDOW UP  ORANGE / green  At switch in driver's door  DRIVER WINDOW DOWN  ORANGE / white  At switch in driver's door  PASSENGER WINDOW UP  ORANGE / tan  In driver's kickpanel  PASSENGER WINDOW DOWN  ORANGE / gray  In driver's kickpanel  LEFT REAR WINDOW UP  ORANGE / white  In driver's kickpanel  LEFT REAR WINDOW DOWN  ORANGE / gray  In driver's kickpanel  RIGHT REAR WINDOW UP  ORANGE / lt.blue  In driver's kickpanel  RIGHT REAR WINDOW DOWN  ORANGE / dk.blue  In driver's kickpanel

HEADLIGHTS  WHITE/ green  At light switch harness  -

Use a 1100-ohm resistor inline to activate parking lights.

Available Notes

Vehicle Notes

PLEASE NOTE: This vehicle is equipped with TRANSPONDER chips in the ignition keys. This will need to be bypassed for Remote Starter installation. A keyless bypass module may be available, contact your distributor to find out. If one of these modules is not available to you, see the appropriate security diagram for bypass instructions.

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capnstubby 
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Here is the wiring diagram for the XRO9100; I have a better copy and can provide a link if needed

2006 ram 3500 diesel, xro9100 -- posted image.

capnstubby 
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I'm in need of Diesel "wait to start" info. Tech sheet refers to  Directfax document 1091, does anyone have this info?

Thanks!

joch1314 
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You don't need a wait to start wire for that remote start unit.

In the remote start selectable features menu, you have to program it for a diesel vehicle.  Its the 11th feature in that menu.  You can then choose the delay that you want.  10, 15, or 20 seconds.  This allows the plugs to warm up and then start when the time delay has expired! 

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capnstubby 
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The alarm system appears to be just great but I cannot get the remot start to work. I even attempted to put a key in the ignition to see if it may be the bypass but it still does not work. When I try to start it from the 2-way transmitter, it comes back right away and say remote start shutdown.

Normal start with a key is fine.

Any ideas?

capnstubby 
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OK, I read through the rules and I do not believe that this is a vioaltion (could be wrong, been there before) but I will Paypal $50 to whomever can help me get this thing completely working.. If you think you can help PM me.

OPS, if I violated some rule please just delete this post (don't spank me)

capnstubby 
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For those that asked for this I thought I would post a couple better images of the wiring diagram

XRO9100 Schematic; http://www.iscg.net/dave/images/new-xro9000-wiring.jpg

CHDL7PK2 schematic with my chicken scratch; http://www.iscg.net/dave/images/CHDL7-PK2-bypass.jpg

Finnaly, I'm still at a loss on whether or not I need relays, dont have any or I would give it a wurl, the local radio shack only had SPST but I'm wondering if I need this?;  http://www.iscg.net/dave/images/dodgeremotestart.pdf

capnstubby 
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I finally had a chance to finish this up over the weekend and here is what my problems were;

I know that this has been stated before but there are 2 violet/brown wires in the ignition harness and I found the wrong one.  Secondly, the bypass unit MUX did not work for me and I ended up using the relays that I ordered. This seems to be a hit or miss with many other posters in this forum which confuses the matter even worse. I used the diagram in the link above and everything works like a charm now.

I would like to switch the defrost button on so if anyone has any values for this I sure would be grateful.

Thanks!

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