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gwb12 
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Posted: April 16, 2003 at 10:02 PM / IP Logged  
i have a sony xplode 52x4 channel cd head unit, a crunch p4125 4 channel ampwith crossover built in , in doors are Pioneer TS-A1365 behind doors are kenwood kfc-p602 and behind seats i have  2 inclosed awc12q subs cant afford another amp right now so i want to wire all into the  one amp ...... help with wireing speakers please
p.s. i dont have manual for amp
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You could leave the front speakers on the radio output front leads, and drive the other four from the amp, using the REAR output leads of the radio into the Amp, then the four channels OUT into the other four speakers.
That's basically what I had done really. If the amp has DUAL crossovers (like mine), then you can place the SUBS on one side, and use the crossover, and leave the other side normal.
If not, you need a SEPERATE crossover for just the subs, leaving the AMP as is without using it's crossover. Take the four outs, put two to the speakers, the other two to a crossover, then to the subs.
My infinity amp (STOCK) drives the doors, and dash speakers. I took the REAR channel from the O.E. infinity amp, and split that into two seperate amps, one for the SUBS (Kenwood 400Watt - Bridged 200L+200R), and one for the Sony Xplod 6x9s (Optimus 200Watt 100L+100R).   
That's basically how you would need to do it.
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Posted: April 17, 2003 at 7:29 PM / IP Logged  

Your amplifier is 2 ohm stereo stable, which means you can hook up all four of your speakers to the front outputs on the amp, and then use the rear outputs for the sub.  You also maximize the potential power output of your amp.  The only drawback to this approach is that you lose the ability to adjust the fade between front and back speakers--they are treated as one because they're all actually playing off the amp's front outputs.  So when you're up front workin your head unit and fade to the rear, you'll be fading to just the subs.  Some people (myself included) actually prefer this feature cuz it lets you listen to just the subs, and no output from the other speakers.  Good for test purposes, or to see if your sub is making weird noises.  And it makes it a lot easier to fix rattles in the car caused by the bass cuz you can listen to it loud without hearing the treble.  When you're done listening to just the subs, just put the head unit's fade control back to the normal spot and everything goes back to normal.

Your 4 channel amp has separate crossovers for the front channels and the rear channels, and the cut off frequencies are adjustable. I'd put the 2 channels for the subs on low pass.  Set the front outputs' crossover frequency to just below what you set for the sub channels, but put the front outputs on high pass.  This way all the bass will go to the subs, and all the mids and highs will go to the 4 main speakers.  Overall efficiency of the amp is maximized.  You might want to play around with the frequencies a lil bit to see what combination sounds the best, and to make sure that you're not missing out on any particular frequencies (e.g. if you set the subs for low pass at 250 Hz, and the speakers for high pass at 350 Hz, you'd be filtering out frequencies between 250 and 350). 

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This is how you would wire it just connect your front and back speakers to 2 channels and that will give you a 2 ohm load. And then connect your sub to the 3rd channel.  It should look like this but you will have a total of 5 speakers instead of 3 http://www.eatel.net/~amptech/elecdisc/trimodpd.htm

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