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phil6710 
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when you sell a job as a installer do you add money for a bypass module or do you sell the job as a "data" install? For an example should the install of a r/s w/keyless 1000ft range 2 remotes installed in a 99 Intrepid cost the same as a 10 dodge Ram? Should pricing be the same for an analog install or a data install? Since data which uses a bypass with a data rs232 port which would save install time. The analog install with many extra connections would take more labor, the data install would cost more in parts. What do you think?
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Since all data comms is analog, charge analog.
(I'm assuming analog costs more.)
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Data costs more but is theoretically faster to install. Charge the highest mean price.
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i charge analogue assuming if something doesn't work or i have an issue and have to rewire it W2W, what would it cost?

i tend to be a worse case scenario kind of guy.... ha ha

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Just curious, what do you guys consider "analog"? Seems to me they would either be digital or data, but neither would include analog.
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howie ll wrote:
Data costs more but is theoretically faster to install. Charge the highest mean price.
That of course is assuming the module wants to cooperate hah.
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KPierson wrote:
Just curious, what do you guys consider "analog"? Seems to me they would either be digital or data, but neither would include analog.

When I say analog I dont mean wiring up the bypass mod w2w vrs. plugging in to a data port. An analog install is when you dont use a module. Its when you hardwire all connections. Like the tach wire,installing a hood pin, wiring up the door locks with resistors and relays ect. A data install usualy eliminates these connections since it uses the bypass module to communicate this data throught the ecm or bcm.

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How is that considered analog?
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Analog is a dicrect signal like w2w connections they are either 12v+ or a ground puse. Data would be coded information sent via multiplex signal.
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Why not agree that all electrical wiring is analog and be done with it.
However, for charging purposes, the intended digital transmission may set the costs!   
(So digital is more expensive eh? I have been working in alternate areas!) (Not that I like PICs anyway LOL)
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