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howie ll 
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Posted: March 27, 2012 at 2:56 AM / IP Logged  
Last poster, vehicle, year make and alarm/RS please.
What are your problems?
skatenroll 
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The car is a 2000 civic ex. An intellistart 4 on an avant guard 5.1 I know I don't have an immobilizer because I hot wired it before I made the connections to the remote start. I have 2 ignitions, the acc, and the starter hooked up on the big harness (along with the power). on the small one i have the first pin to ground, the ground and power hooked up, the rpm wire ran and programed, and the wire hooked up to E brake light and the rest of the connections are made through the avantguard unit. It is all good besides the fact that it wont stay running. The short stop mode works. Only sometimes though.When I remote start it, it just dies instantly after it turns over. I Thought it was because of the RPMs at first but that wasnt it. I started it while running the 12v to the ignition and it stayed running. So either it is turning the ignition off or not keeping it powered.
It is running like it is in an automatic but it is actually in a manual. I used a clutch bypass.I have neutral safety precautions. don't worry. I also tried running it with the e brake wire grounded and it still did the same thing.
I didn't hook up the hood pin or the brake light wire because it said it wasn't needed if it was already made through the alarm.
Any ideas on what the problem is? Here's the guide.
http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/clifford/N909005_12-05.pdf
howie ll 
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Posted: March 27, 2012 at 6:11 PM / IP Logged  
2 things come to mind:
1)There's an immobiliser and you've missed it.
2)You've wired the ignition wrong. Vehicle ignition is BLACK / YELLOW, connected to I/Start GREEN/ blue.
skatenroll 
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The only immobilizer is on the alarm and I wired on the ignition side of the immobilizer. Wouldn't it stop it from turning over too? And since it's on the ignition side, wpuldn't it bypass it? I connected the WHITE/ blue wire to the starter and GREEN/ blue to ignition. It works fine when I run 12v to the ignition wire and then run 12v to the starter until it turns over.
howie ll 
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Posted: March 28, 2012 at 1:55 AM / IP Logged  
Check your fuses and your outputs when you try to start.
The sequence should be warning lights after 1 second then start after about 3 seconds.
howie ll 
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Posted: March 28, 2012 at 1:58 AM / IP Logged  
Did you cut either the vehicle starter or ignition wires?
Also the unit (AG 5.1) has to see an ignition input.
skatenroll 
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What do you mean? I cut both the ignition and starter wires when installing the ag5.1 for the starter kill and when installing the is4.
howie ll 
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Make sure they are sided, i.e GREEN/ blue from i/start to 5.1, ignition, coil side, wire is BLACK / YELLOW on Honda.
WHITE/ blue from intellistart to starter side of starter cut, AG 5.1, wire is BLACK/ white.
One ACC may be wired up as ignition 2 (use the radio feed as ACC 1, the other as ign 2).
This diagram might help. istart_4_to_honda.bmp
skatenroll 
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Oh crap. So the wires should not be on the side when I turn the keys? Because I put them on that side. They should be on the side that goes towards the fuze box? Is that the problem? And when I took the white wire and ran a lead to the ignition and starter it still worked. How would this change when the is4 is doing it and not me?
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Posted: April 01, 2012 at 2:20 PM / IP Logged  
That was it. The acant guard would stop it. I had to wire on the ignition and starter side of the ag5
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