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howie (aka: harryharris)
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Posted: March 09, 2014 at 6:58 PM / IP Logged  
Just test the blue and green lock outputs at the 5706 forget a DMM, it's much easier to use a 12 Volt test light e.g. Snap-On CT4F*.
Bet you originally didn't use diodes or tried wiring those wires to the actuators and you've fied the circuits.
*The best and fastest test going...when you know what you're doing.
In truth very few experienced old school installers will use DMMs.
Test before boxing up.
howie (aka: harryharris)
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Posted: March 09, 2014 at 6:59 PM / IP Logged  
In fact the only times I will ever use one are tach testing and continuity or to test suspect CAN wiring where I'm looking for 1-3 volts rather than 12 but there a scope is even better.
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Posted: March 09, 2014 at 7:02 PM / IP Logged  
The 30 pin should go to ONE of the colors of the actuators. 30 pin to the blue of the actuator. The other relay 30 pin to the green of the actuator.
In other words, tie both of the blue actuators wires to one of the relays 30 pin. Tie both of the green actuators to the other relay 30 pin.
The 85 pin is from the Python unit. Green to one of the relays. Blue to the other 85 pin.
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Posted: March 09, 2014 at 7:15 PM / IP Logged  
1st relay:
pin 86 and 87 to 12 volts
pin 87 to ground (chassis)
pin 85 to green wire from python unit (lock?)
pin 30 to green wire of both actuators
2nd relay:
pin 86 and 87 to 12 volts
pin 87 to ground (chassis)
Pin 85 to blue wire from python unit (unlock)
pin 30 to blue wire of both actuators
If they lock when they should unlock, swap the green and blue wires
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Posted: March 09, 2014 at 7:19 PM / IP Logged  
X2 either blue or green at either 30 or 85.
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Posted: March 09, 2014 at 7:48 PM / IP Logged  
smokeman1 wrote:
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If they lock when they should unlock, swap the green and blue wires
I can see where this statement might be confusing to some, so just to clarify, if they lock when they should unlock, swap the green and blue actuator wires on terminal 30 of each relay OR swap the green and blue Python wires on terminal 85 of each relay, but not both sets of green and blue wies.
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Posted: March 09, 2014 at 8:00 PM / IP Logged  
Yes indeed. I should have clarified that last line.
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Posted: March 09, 2014 at 8:01 PM / IP Logged  
The ground from the switches are interfering. The ground needs to be cut first.
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Posted: March 09, 2014 at 9:18 PM / IP Logged  
Sorry for the short reply, I had my hands full and my phone was acting like it was going to explode!
Your relays are probably correct. Let me explain what I mean.
You have the door switches, which are putting out a ground signal to the actuators at all times to both leads.
When your alarm relays are activated, they are sending that 12V from 87 to a wire that's grounded -- your actuator wire.
So we need to interrupt the ground on one of the leads going to the actuator. I'm going to reply again with a diagram to show what I mean.
No question is stupid or not worth asking. You were once a noob, right? :)
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Posted: March 09, 2014 at 9:30 PM / IP Logged  
Wait, you do have door switches for these right? Or am I mixing this up with another thread? :)
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