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jal901 
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Posted: August 14, 2004 at 7:52 AM / IP Logged  

Hello....

Let me preface by saying serviced MB, Porsche, Ferrari (and a few others) for 20 years.  I have been out of the business for 15 years, but still have some technical expertise (not alarm systems).  After deciding what unit I want I will install it myself, because I crimp/solder/heat shrink/etc all my connections.  Furthermore whenever a wire is spliced into a pre-existing factory harness I splice into the harness, then install a connector... etc, etc.  Obviously such an installation would cost me a small fortune if I hired someone to do it.  I am looking at several remote starter and alarm systems, but have been frustrated at every turn by Clarion and DEI regarding finding installation manuals. 

The car into which I want to install a remote starter is a 1995 Honda Passport (manufacture Sept '94.  This is NOT a 95.5 model).  This car has a factory alarm system which is totally suitable for my needs.  I am **NOT** interested in a higher level of security.

What I want:  1.  remote start.   2. possibly a 2-way system so I can confirm car is running.

So far I have looked at:

 DesignTech's 20022 (limited to 15 minute run time which is not suitable here in CT in winter), but they have good tech support.

Valet 561t - has some features I want, but their customer support is awful.

Clarion SR5000 - has more features I want, but customer support is awful.

(I am aware of the range issuess with the 561t and the 20022.  I am aware of the no warrantee issues of self-installations).

Is there someone/some place where I can find the installation manuals for the SR5000 and the 561t?  I have tried the Clarion and DEI websites, but have only been able to find the owners manuals.

Also.... any suggestions regarding other brands of "Add-on" remote starters that use the pre-existing factory remotes?

Thank you.

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Posted: August 14, 2004 at 9:30 AM / IP Logged  
Well, if you can find the model number of the alarm/remote start unit for the dei versions and you plug them into the search button you will probably find all the install manuals you would need. I know there have been alot of them posted lately. If you can't then post the models here and I will post links to them.
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jal901 
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Posted: August 14, 2004 at 10:35 AM / IP Logged  

auex wrote:
Well, if you can find the model number of the alarm/remote start unit for the dei versions and you plug them into the search button you will probably find all the install manuals you would need. I know there have been alot of them posted lately. If you can't then post the models here and I will post links to them.
561T

Thank you for your help.  The link you posted was exactly what I was looking for.

After seeing your message I clicked on the "Search" feature at the upper right of "the12volt's install bay" and also "the12volt's install bay/ Car Security" I once again tried searching for "561T" and "561t" (without the quotes), but only saw 3 threads none of which included links to installation manuals.  I must be doing something wrong while searching.  Perhaps I am searching in the wrong place?

Anyway.....  can you help teach me how to search for the Clarion/Ungo SR5000 installation instructions?

Thank you

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Posted: August 14, 2004 at 11:42 AM / IP Logged  
Sorry I couldn't even find the install manuals for the clarion. I would believe it would be similar to the dei piece. The owner's manual looks DEI and I think I read somewhere that DEI was making clarion's alarm now.
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auex wrote:
Sorry I couldn't even find the install manuals for the clarion. I would believe it would be similar to the dei piece. The owner's manual looks DEI and I think I read somewhere that DEI was making clarion's alarm now.
have seen some clarion line w/ the exact design of DEI.
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jal901 
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Posted: August 14, 2004 at 12:11 PM / IP Logged  

auex wrote:
Sorry I couldn't even find the install manuals for the clarion. I would believe it would be similar to the dei piece. The owner's manual looks DEI and I think I read somewhere that DEI was making clarion's alarm now.

Which DEI model is the "similar" version to the Clarion SR5000?

Again, I am totally confused how to search for a specific installation instruction manual on THIS site.

Trying http://www.directechs.com/ I have no access...  password required.

Would you be so kind as to provide a link to the DEI version you think is similar to the Clarion/Ungo SR5000?

Thank you

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I have a manual for 561t, but need to unpack a few boxes to find, recently changed employers and have yet to put everything away.  Will try to get it up later today.
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Posted: August 14, 2004 at 11:44 PM / IP Logged  
I would suggest the DEI system, whether it be Viper, Valet, etc. Provided you purchase the hardware from a registered dealer, their warrenty service is impecible. Lifetime warrenty on the brains provided it is installed professionally. I've only used DEI systems since I started in this business and never had a problem out of any of them. Viper 300ESP, Viper C60, and Viper 550ESP. The 300ESP has been on three different cars and still preforming like new to this very day.

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