Audiobahn Haters!

Even a completely deaf man would tell you they suck.

Boxmaker85, I charge less than half of what most people charge in my area for box's. And most of what I build is for people that need a difficult shape to fit their vehicle, not the basic stuff you see in stores and on the internet. My point is, most people go to a store and buy them, and don't even price one to have built. That is their choice. If they can't buy it in a store to fit, then they have to come to people like me and have it built. What will hey do when the only ones around are the ones that charge $300 to $400 to build them? Sorry if I touched a nerve.  '85 Toy

Im right there with ya Superdude , Im not going to build them for free , my time is worth somthing but Im not going to RAPE some one for the shirt off thier back. I only do this as a hobby and each one I build is slightly different in one way or another. Even if I did this for a living , I wouldnt charge the outrageous prices to have a custom box built. On occasion , I can justify a larger price due to a very complex design but on avg........NOT. I understand that the avg. Joe probly doesnt have the time , or tools , or carpentry skills but its still no excuse to RAPE people like most custom shops do.99 F-one fitty

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Im not sure how this topic went from "Audiobahn is sweet!!" to "Prefab boxes suck." But I suppose I will put in my 2 cents anyways. The shop I buy the majority of my stuff from really pushes the pre fab boxs. Although they will custom make a box if it needs to fit somewhere, or if someone asks for a custom made one, but they deal in mostly prefab. My box is prefab, 3/4" mdf i believe and its really nice. A friend of mine bought a custom box from some kid whose brother made it. Its really nice looking and sounds amazing. The damn thing weighs as much without subs in it as mine does with the subs, but it sounds real nice. I would like, at some point, to try my hand at making boxes. But i suck at wood working and its sort of a expensvie thing to screw up, so I guss for the time being I will stick with my prefab.

speedwayaudio1 wrote: mdf must be cheap where you come from.

Even from Home Depot here, a sheet of 3/4 mdf is only $18.00.Certified Security Specialist

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I only have one more thing to say on this subject, or should I say "ask". If you have a pair of subs(any brand) and let's say they need 1cubic ft each. And you buy a "pre-fab" thats made of 3/4" mdf. And it's 1 cubic ft in each chamber. Now you have a box built using 3/4" mdf with 1 cubic ft per chamber. Now both boxes are made with the same spec's, same materials. Now what makes the "custom built box" better? I understand if you put subs in a pre-fab that need more air space or less air space then the pre-fab has, you can still match a sub and a pre-fab. Hey don't get me wrong I like a custom box you can make the install look very custom and you can match the sub and air space right on. you can still do the same in a pre-fab. If you can't find on thats right on the size you need. You buy one with as little over air space as you can, then use solid wood blocks to take up air space. Now 1 more thing. What is wrong with 17 year old kids?? They spend their money just like everone else. People talk down on these "kids", but I'll tell you they are good customers and they have money. And that helps feed my family and many of yours too. I said this in this thread before we all love car audio and no one should be looked down on because "you" don't think the same way. opinions are like buttholes everbody's got one...........Big Dave

the big thing with prefab boxes is they don't take into consideration the displacement of the driver, also they use a safety margin as a compromise, you can build to a subs specific needs

I strongly disagree that 1cu ft always = another 1cu ft enclosure. Everyone's point is that the construction counts - big time! A well braced and damped box will sound much better at higher volume levels because box resonance and wall flex will be more under control. See the Loudspeaker Cookbook for graphs and measurements on what bracing and damping can do. A pre-fab box will normally not be braced and damped like a custom box can. Furthermore, they might have done a sloppy/loose glue job, etc. Anyway. I almost didn't respond, but in MOST cases pre-fab boxes are not good and I totally disagree with your opinion. New Project: 2003 Pathfinder